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I couldn't see the value of listing other Bible software in our Wiki, but tolerated it since it was supposed to be further developed into something more worthwhile. However, now that it's become largely an ad for non-Sword software, I'm going to remove the whole section.
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[[Talk:File Formats/Archive]]
  
Only material related, relevant, or useful to CrossWire and/or the SWORD Project need go in our Wiki. Material not fitting those categories can go in someone else's Wiki and will be deleted from this one.
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== Biblical texts stored in SQlite database format ==
  
--Osk
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Should you come across a Biblical text stored in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQLite SQlite] database format, then this open source program may prove to be useful.
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: [http://sqlitebrowser.org/ DB Browser for SQLite]
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The source files are hosted on github – there are builds available for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, Arch Linux, Fedora, Ubuntu and Derivatives, and FreeBSD. You can export a table to CSV format, which could be a stepping stone towards making a SWORD module with other utilities.
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== Go Bible & collaboration with CrossWire ==
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== Deletion ==
  
I have just added some information about Go Bible.  Please visit my user page to see why, rather than removing this. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 15:47, 7 August 2008 (MDT)
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I am deleting references to all defunct, foreign or otherwise irrelevant formats and their utilities. I also remove references to undocumented utilities. There are a few within the source tree which possibly need removing, but we are not helping this by keeping references here.  
  
== Tessaract OCR software ==
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Further, we do not support GBF anymore other than in legacy modules. We also have seen for years (ie.e since I am part of the project) any suggested imports from STEP. I will generally par this page down to be specific to tools currently in use, encouraged and useful. [[User:Refdoc|refdoc]]:[[User_Talk:Refdoc|talk]] 04:11, 8 January 2018 (MST)
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:New sections to a talk page should always be added at the bottom. Sections should be in chronological order. --[[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] ([[User talk:David Haslam|talk]]) 04:47, 8 January 2018 (MST)
  
Having just added a stub section about Tessaract, I'd like to suggest that Troy adds a few words about it. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 20:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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::As we still accept '''IMP format''', this section should not have been removed. Please re-instate it. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] ([[User talk:David Haslam|talk]]) 16:25, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
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:::Found it and added a link to the new page under '''See also'''. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] ([[User talk:David Haslam|talk]])
  
== Zefania XML is gone ==
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== Go Bible ==
  
A couple of days ago, there was a message from Wolfgang Schultz in the Sword dev mailing list which announced that he has removed all websites relating to '''Zefania XML'''. Certainly the [http://www.zefania.de/ link] now goes to a "page under construction" message. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 19:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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I am removing this section from the main page. It has some broken links. Go Bible is no longer being developed. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] ([[User talk:David Haslam|talk]]) 12:30, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
  
:The sourceforge repository for various modules is still available at [http://sourceforge.net/projects/zefania-sharp/]. The most recently uploaded module is the Zürcher Bibel, dated April 12, 2009. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 10:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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===Go Bible===
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Following an agreement made in July 2008 with the program's author Jolon Faichney, [[Projects:Go Bible|Go Bible]] was adopted by CrossWire as its Java ME software project.
  
::The admins for this sourceforge project are Tom Baccei and Mathieu Delarue. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 10:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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To achieve the navigation speed and general ease of use on even the simplest of Java mobile phones, Go Bible data is fully indexed, as well as being compressed (as are all JAR files).  The format is described in [http://code.google.com/p/gobible/wiki/GoBibleDataFormat Go Bible data format]. Go Bible data is structured as Book | Chapter | Verse text and does not support notes, headings and cross-references, etc. The developer kit [http://gobible.jolon.org/developer/welcome.html Go Bible Creator] can take either USFM, ThML or OSIS as the source text format, but they usually have to be made specially suitable. For example, OSIS files produced by Snowfall Software's SFMToOSIS script are not structured the same. Work has begun to make an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSL_Transformations XSLT] script to convert such OSIS XML files to the format suitable for Go Bible. [[Projects:Go Bible/Go Bible Creator|Go Bible Creator]] version 2.3.2 and onwards can take a folder of USFM files as the source text format.
  
== PMD files? ==
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Go Bible source code is now available [https://crosswire.org/svn/gobible/ here] on the CrossWire Repository. ''To access this you will need to have an account''.
  
Anyone know a way (short of obtaining and installing an old version of PageMaker) how to extract the text from a PMD file? [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 09:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
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GoBibleDataFormat is being extended in the [[Projects:Go Bible/SymScroll|SymScroll]] branch.
:Anyone tried [http://createpdf.adobe.com/ Create Adobe® PDF Online]? This online service is only available to subscribers in the US & Canada. ''I live in the UK''. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 09:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Please discuss before reverting - the page is now become inaccurate ==
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I see that 7 of my recent edits have been reverted by [[User:Osk|Osk]]. In future, please discuss before reverting - as the page is now become inaccurate. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 11:58, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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:I reverted because one of your last edits erased text following "$$$". This is the second time you've done this kind of careless edit. Last time, I (and I believe another editor) corrected all of the deletions you performed. --[[User:Osk|Osk]] 15:47, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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::I have no idea why that occurred, when all I was doing was changing a redlink in the previous paragraph, and that only during my last edit before your reversion. I'm sure this wasn't through carelessness. I normally check my edits using preview before saving. This is quite weird! Could this be due to a subtle bug in the wiki software?  [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 19:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::I've been thinking about this further. The two items of text that were unintentionally deleted were both Bible references. A couple of weeks ago I installed a Firefox add-on called [http://www.proginosko.com/refalizer.html Bible Refalizer]. I wonder if that was the cause? I'll do some tests in the wiki sandbox, and report later. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 21:09, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 12:30, 28 April 2018

Talk:File Formats/Archive

Biblical texts stored in SQlite database format

Should you come across a Biblical text stored in SQlite database format, then this open source program may prove to be useful.

DB Browser for SQLite

The source files are hosted on github – there are builds available for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, Arch Linux, Fedora, Ubuntu and Derivatives, and FreeBSD. You can export a table to CSV format, which could be a stepping stone towards making a SWORD module with other utilities.

David Haslam (talk) 12:34, 16 December 2016 (MST)

Deletion

I am deleting references to all defunct, foreign or otherwise irrelevant formats and their utilities. I also remove references to undocumented utilities. There are a few within the source tree which possibly need removing, but we are not helping this by keeping references here.

Further, we do not support GBF anymore other than in legacy modules. We also have seen for years (ie.e since I am part of the project) any suggested imports from STEP. I will generally par this page down to be specific to tools currently in use, encouraged and useful. refdoc:talk 04:11, 8 January 2018 (MST)

New sections to a talk page should always be added at the bottom. Sections should be in chronological order. --David Haslam (talk) 04:47, 8 January 2018 (MST)
As we still accept IMP format, this section should not have been removed. Please re-instate it. David Haslam (talk) 16:25, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Found it and added a link to the new page under See also. David Haslam (talk)

Go Bible

I am removing this section from the main page. It has some broken links. Go Bible is no longer being developed. David Haslam (talk) 12:30, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Go Bible

Following an agreement made in July 2008 with the program's author Jolon Faichney, Go Bible was adopted by CrossWire as its Java ME software project.

To achieve the navigation speed and general ease of use on even the simplest of Java mobile phones, Go Bible data is fully indexed, as well as being compressed (as are all JAR files). The format is described in Go Bible data format. Go Bible data is structured as Book | Chapter | Verse text and does not support notes, headings and cross-references, etc. The developer kit Go Bible Creator can take either USFM, ThML or OSIS as the source text format, but they usually have to be made specially suitable. For example, OSIS files produced by Snowfall Software's SFMToOSIS script are not structured the same. Work has begun to make an XSLT script to convert such OSIS XML files to the format suitable for Go Bible. Go Bible Creator version 2.3.2 and onwards can take a folder of USFM files as the source text format.

Go Bible source code is now available here on the CrossWire Repository. To access this you will need to have an account.

GoBibleDataFormat is being extended in the SymScroll branch.