http://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&feed=atom&action=historyUser talk:Dmsmith - Revision history2024-03-29T11:20:14ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.27.7http://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=8746&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* Project KJV2006 */ reported my observations2010-11-05T21:04:34Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Project KJV2006: </span> reported my observations</span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=8705&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* Project KJV2006 */ :::The lack of displayed italics for some translation changes2010-11-04T23:06:52Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Project KJV2006: </span> :::The lack of displayed italics for some translation changes</span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=8702&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* Project KJV2006 */ ::I have made some progress today2010-11-04T21:44:49Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Project KJV2006: </span> ::I have made some progress today</span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=5953&oldid=prevDmsmith: /* KJV 1611 */2009-03-16T17:34:38Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">KJV 1611</span></span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=5950&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* KJV 1611 */ :::I just rechecked what I did in 2007.2009-03-16T17:26:07Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">KJV 1611: </span> :::I just rechecked what I did in 2007.</span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=5949&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* Project KJV2006 */ == KJV 1611 ==2009-03-16T17:22:42Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Project KJV2006: </span> == KJV 1611 ==</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The main value of Scrivener's book is the English textual history behind the 1769 Authorised Version. More recently (and much more expensive!), yet partly based on Scrivener's book, is the 2005 book by David Norton. ''A textual history of the King James Bible'', Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521771005. See [http://www.copac.ac.uk/wzgw?field=ti&terms=textual%20history%20of%20the%20King%20James%20Bible]. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 20:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The main value of Scrivener's book is the English textual history behind the 1769 Authorised Version. More recently (and much more expensive!), yet partly based on Scrivener's book, is the 2005 book by David Norton. ''A textual history of the King James Bible'', Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521771005. See [http://www.copac.ac.uk/wzgw?field=ti&terms=textual%20history%20of%20the%20King%20James%20Bible]. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 20:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=5948&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* Project KJV2006 */ It looks much earlier spelling....2009-03-16T17:12:26Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Project KJV2006: </span> It looks much earlier spelling....</span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=5944&oldid=prevDmsmith: /* Project KJV2006 */2009-03-16T11:56:46Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Project KJV2006</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The main value of Scrivener's book is the English textual history behind the 1769 Authorised Version. More recently (and much more expensive!), yet partly based on Scrivener's book, is the 2005 book by David Norton. ''A textual history of the King James Bible'', Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521771005. See [http://www.copac.ac.uk/wzgw?field=ti&terms=textual%20history%20of%20the%20King%20James%20Bible]. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 20:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The main value of Scrivener's book is the English textual history behind the 1769 Authorised Version. More recently (and much more expensive!), yet partly based on Scrivener's book, is the 2005 book by David Norton. ''A textual history of the King James Bible'', Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521771005. See [http://www.copac.ac.uk/wzgw?field=ti&terms=textual%20history%20of%20the%20King%20James%20Bible]. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 20:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Dmsmithhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmsmith&diff=5924&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* Project KJV2006 */ See also2009-03-13T20:17:18Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Project KJV2006: </span> See also</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Index management and indexed search are not teh same things - FB e.g can search on existing indeces, but can not create its own indeces. I am not objecting per se against del;etion of teh entry, but I think there is a difference. Maybe a footnote in FB under the search heading will do [[User:Refdoc|refdoc]]:[[User_Talk:Refdoc|talk]] Done. [[User:Refdoc|refdoc]]:[[User_Talk:Refdoc|talk]] 16:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Index management and indexed search are not teh same things - FB e.g can search on existing indeces, but can not create its own indeces. I am not objecting per se against del;etion of teh entry, but I think there is a difference. Maybe a footnote in FB under the search heading will do [[User:Refdoc|refdoc]]:[[User_Talk:Refdoc|talk]] Done. [[User:Refdoc|refdoc]]:[[User_Talk:Refdoc|talk]] 16:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Of course, you are right! I've made the correction.--[[User:Dmsmith|Dmsmith]] 11:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Of course, you are right! I've made the correction.--[[User:Dmsmith|Dmsmith]] 11:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
</table>David Haslam