http://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=Talk:OSIS_pre-verse_titles&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:OSIS pre-verse titles - Revision history2024-03-29T15:48:40ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.27.7http://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=Talk:OSIS_pre-verse_titles&diff=14012&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* Psalm 119 Acrostic Stanza Titles */ new section2015-12-17T13:55:03Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Psalm 119 Acrostic Stanza Titles: </span> new section</span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=Talk:OSIS_pre-verse_titles&diff=10927&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* The roles of subType="x-preverse" and canonical="true" in title elements? */2012-01-07T15:52:18Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">The roles of subType="x-preverse" and canonical="true" in title elements?</span></span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=Talk:OSIS_pre-verse_titles&diff=10844&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: /* The roles of subType="x-preverse" and canonical="true" in title elements? */ new section2011-12-26T16:44:32Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">The roles of subType="x-preverse" and canonical="true" in title elements?: </span> new section</span></p>
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</table>David Haslamhttp://wiki.crosswire.org/index.php?title=Talk:OSIS_pre-verse_titles&diff=10628&oldid=prevDavid Haslam: Acknowledgement2011-10-21T14:17:15Z<p>Acknowledgement</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Acknowledgement ==<br />
The information was kindly supplied by DM Smith. [[User:David Haslam|David Haslam]] 08:17, 21 October 2011 (MDT)</div>David Haslam